two weeks ago when i was on your show after my meeting at the white house with vice president biden, i said i thought we had a conversation and heard each other. in fact, earlier this week, the white house informed me they are putting $50 million into the niban budgetet for atf. national information ballistic information network. that goes against criminals, solves crimes, that's the kind of stuff we need to do in this country. effective things on criminals. >> the same report found, page 97, that the studies contrasting different kinds of attacks, more overall gun violence, when you look at assault weapons, more persons wound ed. this is the type of weapon you grab when you want to do a massacre of people. why would you ban something that showed a 17% drop in the study which no one disputes the study? >> well, that's -- there are other studies that show that nothing significant occurred during that period. and crime rates in general going down during that period. and, again, the focus has to be on in the hands of the gun. if i don't use one of those guns, i can use a different gun.